Angry Christians Part 5

This is a first. I'm used to being targeted in a personal way when I counter the arguments from Christians, but this time, the personal comments come (while I am asleep!) in a discussion which I did not even participate in! 

This from a published Christian Author who is a friend of a friend.
Posted by A Tree Hugger on 26 May 2014 at 6:42PM
"The gospel is the good news that Jesus Christ is Lord, that Christ has died, Christ has risen, and Christ will come again. You’re not “contending for the gospel” when you disagree with someone on gender roles. You’re just disagreeing with someone on gender roles. You’re not “contending for the gospel” when you debate predestination and free will. You’re just debating predestination and free will, as Christians have done for centuries. You’re not “contending for the gospel” by interpreting Genesis 1 as literal science; you’re just interpreting Genesis 1 as literal science. You’re not “contending for the gospel” when you take to Twitter to call faithful Christians with whom you disagree heretics, false teachers, wolves in sheep’s clothing, Bible-haters, and gospel-deniers; you’re just being a jerk. The Gospel doesn’t need a coalition devoted to keeping the wrong people out. It needs a family of sinners-saved-by-grace committed to tearing down the walls, throwing open the doors and saying, “Welcome. There’s bread and wine. Come and eat. Let's talk."	I like the message at the end – seems to be encouraging inclusiveness. I can't think of anything to add to this post. It's a good one.
Re: This from a publish Christian Author who is a friend of a friend.
Posted by A Christian Apologist on 30 May 2014 at 3:42AM
Care to clarify?
Re: This from a publish Christian Author who is a friend of a friend.
Posted by A Creationist on 30 May 2014 at 4:14AM
https://www.facebook.com/rachelheldevans.page	A Creationist provides the facebook page of the author that A Tree Hugger referred to, so as to clarify the source.
Re: This from a publish Christian Author who is a friend of a friend.
Posted by A Christian Apologist on 30 May 2014 at 5:22AM
Excellent! But of course Jim will just ignore such, much as he ignores all posits of mine (and yours) which counter his pewrspective--whose content is substantiated by outside links whose content is either unassailable and/or deserves an honest on topic response! The only way for such discussion to take place is for one to quote opposing perspectives--honestly and entirely within context--and to frame one's response in consideration of such! Any other response rephrasing actual opposing posits and/or appealing to other disingenuous tactics only betrays the lack of ability of that side to engage in honest and on topic dialog!	Hang on a minute!!! How did I get dragged into this? I appear to have attracted criticism by saying absolutely nothing.  I wonder if A Christian Apologist has confused me for A Tree Hugger? Or maybe he just expects me to comment on everything that everyone says.
Re: This from a publish Christian Author who is a friend of a friend.
Posted by A Creationist on 30 May 2014 at 5:29AM
He fancies himself a big fish. But it's a small pond. He'd down in a lake.	Oh good. I'm being double teamed. While I'm asleep. I'd better set my alarm for 5:30 am in future LOL
Re: This from a publish Christian Author who is a friend of a friend.
Posted by A Christian Apologist on 30 May 2014 at 6:03AM
Of course! But again the bigger issue exposes his lack of honest on topic dialog and the extremes he goes to to avoid such! Likewise his RGFSMCL tautologies which again necessarily (from his perspective) are dishonest constructs!	Huh?
If one has confidence in one's perspective, all one has to do is to honestly address opposing perspectives on topic and offer counter evidence to such! On the other hand, if one has no confidence in one's perspective, we witness the lengths to which Jim avoids honest dialog and engages in the type of disingenuous posits that we all witness! I'm surprised by the fact that those of his perspective don't challenge such based on his obvious false reasoning and offer a more honestly logical basis for their viewpoints!	Yes look at the lengths I'm going to in order to avoid honest dialog. Sleeping. I'm deliberately living in a different time zone so I can be asleep while the Angry Christians are awake!
Re: This from a published Christian Author who is a friend of a friend.
Posted by A Creationist on 30 May 2014 at 6:25AM
That's exactly right. It also explains why he'd rather focus on trivial matters that are irrelevant to the topic but distract from points being made. He also loves playing the Columbo! It's all meant to distract, obfuscate, and keep discussions off-balance. He's the master of unintelligibility. (Charts and graphs to follow)	Aha Columbo! One of my favourite characters. That's a massive compliment. Sadly A Creationist didn't spot the irony in his analogy... as explained here
Re: This from a published Christian Author who is a friend of a friend.
Posted by A Christian Apologist on 30 May 2014 at 6:33AM
Thumbs up	Time for breakfast and to see what's on the religion DB. Oh dear. Perhaps I should remind A Creationist and A Christian  Apologist that I haven't actually said anything in this thread...
Re: This from a published Christian Author who is a friend of a friend.
Posted by JimC on 30 May 2014 at 6:37AM
I'm not sure why I'm being attacked in a thread that I haven't participated in!
Re: This from a publish Christian Author who is a friend of a friend.
Posted by A Creationist on 30 May 2014 at 6:41AM
critiqued	Er... How is it possible to critique what I haven't written?
Re: This from a publish Christian Author who is a friend of a friend.
Posted by JimC on 30 May 2014 at 6:44AM
Persecuted LOL. But seriously - why go for me in a thread I haven't participated in? It seems a bit random. I'm not complaining, just curious.	A bit of a joke there... there is a separate thread discussing Christian Persecution going on at the same time as this one. Funnily enough, A Christian  Apologist hasn't responded to what I said in that thread. Maybe I should attack him! But it's not in my nature.
Re: This from a publish Christian Author who is a friend of a friend.
Posted by A Creationist on 30 May 2014 at 6:46AM
Go for you???	Yes. Go for me. Or as the OED puts it... “Launch oneself at (someone); attack” I suspect that perhaps A Creationist has realised at this point that I've been targeted without saying anything, due to mistaken identity.
Re: This from a publish Christian Author who is a friend of a friend.
Posted by A Christian Apologist on 30 May 2014 at 6:51AM
Again, Jim, as much as you'd like to claim that opposition to your demonstrably disingenuous tactics is a personal attack on you, all you have to do to refute such is to engage in honest and on topic dialog regarding the discussion at hand. If you continue to refuse to quote opposing perspectives honestly and completely and respond on topic to such, any critiques of your tactics are obvious for what they truly expose.	Well I'd be happy to engage in “the discussion at hand” if I'd had the opportunity, or been asked, or if I had something to add to what was already said. I didn't say "personal attack" (and why is he suggesting I did?) but personal comments don't exactly encouraging me to participate! Fact is I don't have an “opposite perspective” to what A Tree Hugger posted. Anger certainly does cloud one's judgement.
Re: This from a publish Christian Author who is a friend of a friend.
Posted by JimC on 30 May 2014 at 6:54AM
As I say I haven't been involved in this thread - what is it you need me to give a perspective on? I can't see what's triggered the hostility against me here.
Re: This from a publish Christian Author who is a friend of a friend.
Posted by A Christian Apologist on 30 May 2014 at 6:59AM
Of course you pretend that counter posits to your perspective that expose your tactics are "personal attacks" on you! Again, all you have to do to refute such is to engage in honest and on topic dialog regarding whatever subject matter is under discussion, honestly quoting opposing perspectives in their entirely and responding on topic to such. I welcome your tacit admission that you and your perspective are incapable of doing so. :-)	Counter posits to my perspective? I haven't seen a counter-posit to my perspective. My perspective is that I agree with the post from A Tree Hugger. Why would I counter what I agree with? I've seen a reply to what A Tree Hugger posted (which was the facebook page of the author that A Tree Hugger referred to). I like what she says and I like her words that A Tree Hugger posted. And that's all I've seen – apart from ad hominem aimed at me – just because I didn't say anything!! Well, there's no point me replying to this – A Christian  Apologist is convinced I have an “opposing perspective” which I'm not sharing. Time to make some toast and coffee for myself and Mrs C. Hopefully that won't create more Christian anger!