Apostle
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Legend regarding death
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Comment
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Source
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Judas Iscariot | Either hanged himself, or fell over and exploded. | Not considered a martyr because of his betrayal. | Matthew 27:5 and Acts 1:18 |
John | Thrown into a pot of boiling oil but emerged unharmed, subsequently lived to a very old age. | Died of natural causes so not a martyr | |
James, son of Zebedee | Killed by Herod. | We don't know why Herod killed him. It may have had nothing to do with his religious beliefs | Acts 12:2 |
Simon aka Peter | Crucified in Rome, willingly, therefore martyred | This is according to the apocryphal Acts of Peter which Eusebius dismissed as spurious and heretical | |
Andrew | Crucified on an X-shaped “St. Andrew’s cross”. He taught the crowd while he was on the cross and refused their offer to take him down. | This information comes from the apocryphal Acts of Andrew which Eusebius dismissed as absurd, heretical, etc. | |
Philip | Died after being hung upside down by iron hooks in his ankles. | The New Advent Catholic encyclopaedia refers to this as “purely legendary and a tissue of fables” | |
Bartholomew | Various legends. Was crucified in Armenia or beheaded in India and/or flayed alive. | The New Advent encyclopaedia says the manner of his death is “uncertain” and adds that apart from his name, “Nothing further is known of him”. | |
Thomas | Killed by soldiers with spears while preaching in India | This is described in the apocryphal Acts of Thomas, which Eusebius dismissed as absurd and heretical. The New Advent encyclopaedia says “Little is recorded” of Thomas’ life and “it is difficult to discover any adequate support” for the tradition of his death in India. | |
Matthew | Killed by being chopped up, or burnt alive, or stoned to death or beheaded or died of old age, in Egypt or Persia or Ethiopia | No agreement on how he died. Catholic.org says, “Nothing definite is known about his later life”, and “uncertain whether he died a natural death or received the crown of martyrdom”. The Christian History Institute says, “We have nothing but legend about Matthew’s death.” | |
The other James | Stoned to death by the Pharisees or crucified in Egypt | This is a tricky one because there are several men called James in the New testament and it's hard to know which one to align with this apostle. So it's hard to know which legend applies. Catholics say he was Jesus's brother. Other churches disagree | |
Jude aka Lebbaeus aka Thaddaeus | Was either clubbed to death or died naturally. Or crucified. The apocryphal Acts of Thaddeus say he died naturally. | No reliable written sources seem to exist. | |
The other Simon | Crucified in Persia with Jude, or died naturally. Or possibly sawn in half. Died in Edessa, or Samaria, or Iberia, or Colchis. Or possibly in Britain. | No consensus on how he died | |
Matthias (not to be confused with Matthew) | Crucified in Colchis or stoned to death then beheaded in Jerusalem. | According to the New Advent Catholic encyclopaedia, “information concerning the life and death of Matthias is vague and contradictory” |
The title is a 3rd attempt as the previous titles generated opprobrium from two Christians. 1st attempt (Reason is the Greatest Enemy that Faith Has) was allegedly a misrepresentation of Martin Luther. A creationist gave me a modified version (Reason can be - and often is - the greatest enemy that faith has) but became angry when I used it. Latest attempt is from Mark Twain. The posts here describe conversations with Apologists & what I regard as their fallacious arguments.
Monday, 7 April 2014
Dying for Belief
There's a common Christian apologist argument which goes like this: The apostles died painful, martyr's deaths for not recanting their belief in Jesus. No one would willingly die for a belief that wasn't true, therefore Jesus is God.
Let's ignore the flaw in that argument. The fact is there's hardly any evidence of how they died, and even less evidence that recanting would have saved them...
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