Tuesday, 8 April 2014

An Angry Christian 2

A Born Again Christian reacts badly during a discussion on Pagan new age religion...


A moonday Religion for you all
Posted by a Tree Hugger on 7 Apr 2014 at 11:07PM

Re: A moonday Religion for you all
Posted by JimC  on 7 Apr 2014 at 11:40PM
Fascinating. And inclusive, which is good IMHO.
        
Re: A moonday Religion for you all
Posted by a Tree Hugger on 8 Apr 2014 at 3:26AM
I found the concept of nests to be fascinating

Re: A moonday Religion for you all
Posted by A Pantheist  on 8 Apr 2014 at 5:29AM
Not had time to read much but does seem to make sense.

It may be said that all religions are "true," as indeed are all sincerely held opinions, in the sense that personal reality is necessarily subjective. In other words, what you believe to be true, is true, by definition......From the standpoint of human consciousness, there is no other reality than that which we experience, and whatever we experience is therefore reality - therefore "true." We can only distinguish the experience of the objective world from those which lie entirely within our own minds when we compare notes with other people and arrive thereby at a consensus of reality. This consensus, however, is also subjective within the entire community, and is also liable not to be synonymous with objective reality (as in the case of the Geocentric cosmos). The question then arises, "How can we know objective reality?" and the answer, of course, is that we can't; not totally. However, we can arrive at very close approximations of objective reality by careful applications of the scientific method combined with creative insight, and by refusing to fill in the gaps in our knowledge with blind "leaps of faith."

Ancient tribal peoples - that is, Pagans - diversified though they were, held among them certain common viewpoints. Among these were: veneration of an Earth-Mother Goddess; animism and pantheism; identification with a sacred region; seasonal celebrations; love-respect, awe and veneration for Nature and Her mysteries; sensuality and sexuality in worship; magic and myth; and a sense of humanity being a microcosm corresponding to the macrocosm of all Nature. These insights, however, were largely intuitive, as science had not yet progressed to the point of being able to provide objective validation for what must have seemed, to outsiders, to be mere superstition.

Although I don't quite she the Earth Mother as a deity, paganism comes close to my own beliefs. Must read more of this when I get the time

Re: A moonday Religion for you all
Posted by A Born Again Christian on 8 Apr 2014 at 6:04AM
What a bunch of relativistic crap. And since I believe it's true, it's therefore true. We can't know objective reality really. But never mind about that because what you experience is true. So we learn about objective reality through our subjective experiences combined with "careful applications of the scientific method combined with creative insight, and by refusing to fill in the gaps in our knowledge with blind "leaps of faith."" Oh and a couple of joints and pepperoni pizza will help too. 

This nonsense isn't a blind leap of faith? 

Ps...please don't anyone respond that you disagree. That's your reality. Mine is "sincerely held" and therefore true.  Laughing


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